What it says in the title, but the opposite, but hey you need to know them. Cheek and jowl self-referential gobbing. Great for spotting out what is wrong with theatre practice (and would-be educators) in the British theatre today, by what old means and why they speak so little to the migrant populace.

With the protagonists not losing composure once the podcast feels like a cut out of the FastShow, on downers. If these two are the establishment’s arty good, you can only wonder how more vacuous the culinary alternative, in charge of many access barriers, are. Both brag in tempo and unison about what, never about why and why them, as the English do. The answer is by default because they are worth it and do get the money darling from other organisations. The (Freudian) question about one’s work being probably one’s phallic monument to their relationship or just one giant beanstalk, is not part of the predicament. Freud is still a bridge over the English channel, too far for British theatre practitioners.

Artistic Directors Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod in ‘Not True, But Useful…’ a podcast series all about theatre, acting, directing, and life. Produced, hosted and edited by Lucie Dawkins, with additional support from Cheek by Jowl.

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